I told you when I came in here that Ill treat you with respect, and Ive asked you to do the same for me, he said. When he returned later that same evening, he drove straight back to Ottawa to help his wife with some unpacking, since he had the Monday off work. Russ, maybe this would help. suburb of Orleans. things like that?. The OPP settled out-of-court with Massicotte in 2015, but as of 2016 her lawsuit against Williams and Harriman was still active. As McClintic described it, the laneway crossed a small creek, went up on an incline, and then at the peak a large rock pile sat to the left. The trial into the death of Victoria Stafford has revealed disturbing details about the final hours of the Woodstock, Ont., girl, but it has also shed light on a highly skilled police interrogator. Marie-France Comeau opens tonight in Toronto, those close to the victims are outraged and plan to do something about it. The Behavior Panel is a non-partisan group, looking to educate and entertain the public with their interest and expertise in nonverbal communication, body language, deception detection, interrogation, and resistance to interrogation.Watch the Russell Williams full interrogation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndaaSxc1PPIThis behavior profiler group takes on the task of investigating the behavior behind the crime news that often forces us to think and feel the way we do. Marie-France has been deeply missed by all that knew her. . Dafoe grew up with the 27-year-old Belleville resident, who was killed in 2010 by the former commander of CFB Trenton in eastern Ontario. Smyths interrogation techniques sketches the limits of police interrogation under the Charter, and reveals the weak points in the central technique of minimizing-maximizing, in which an interrogator implies that a suspect is a nice guy who snapped rather than a cold-blooded killer.. . Those seated on the other side of the table are made to feel comfortable and at ease, for that is the frame of mind most conducive to revealing sought-after information. We apologize, but this video has failed to load. That day, police had obtained Rafferty's cellphone records and saw that on the evening of April 8 his cellphone had pinged off a tower near Mount Forest, which was farther north than they had been searching to date. In the wake of the criminal conviction, two multi-million dollar civil lawsuits were filed against Williams and Harriman, one by "Jane Doe," the other by the family of Jessica Lloyd. As a top Canadian practitioner of the modern art of police interrogation, it is his job to bring forensic psychology to life, using conviviality and guile to convince murderers to skip trial and go straight to jail. ", "I just want people to know how hurtful this is, how harmful this has been. He interjected his high-ranking military status strategically by adding, I guess the closest. . Smyth began his career with the York Regional Police (in Ontario, Canada) in 1988 before joining the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) in 1997. In December 2011, it was announced that Smyth was assigned to the criminal behavioural analysis section of the Ontario Provincial Police and is the unit coordinator for the four-member polygraph unit. Williams looked insulted, then exhaled deeply, grinned wide, and shook his head. . . "Its great evidence," he said. As he sat quietly with his head slumped forward, holding his face in his hand, his body language spoke clearly. The police had laid a carefully crafted plan to trap Williams. CBC BiographyA biography and timeline of Russell Williams's life, by the CBC. Cooperative can mean a number of different things. Readers using BlackBerries and iPhones can Jim Tomsavic and his department issued grenades. At the University of Toronto's Scarborough campus residence, he was known for demanding cleanliness, and he was repeatedly bugged about his obsessive compulsive-type behaviour. Dafoe, who has a photo of Lloyd in her bedroom, said Smyth reached out to her after he saw her online petition and until then she hadn't thought about the investigator. The Ontario Crown announced Monday it will not appeal the Sept. 26 decision of Mr. Justice Kenneth A. Langdon that Det.-Sgt. Then he was asked about Comeau and the circumstances of his first murder. .. On 22 October 2010, Williams was sentenced to two terms of life imprisonment, with no possibility of parole for 25 years. Access articles from across Canada with one account. [9] Smyths interrogation of Colonel Williams is already being used as a training model by the Ontario Provincial Police. But he said some suspects need to see hard evidence before they will open up. if, for whatever reason, you didnt end up on our radar so to speak, do you think it would have happened again?. Cause you know this would have a very significant impact on the base if they thought you thought I did this.. . whether its you or whether its anybody else, all right?. Sgt. [1] As far as cops went, he seemed to have the proverbial Midas touch, the kind of cop most case investigators would want holding their ladder. After eliciting more details about the colonels day-long trip to Ottawa and the dinner that he shared with his wife before returning to Tweed that evening, the detective hastily returned to the topic of tires. So as I said before, any point today you feel the need to speak to a lawyer, you just let me know and we can take you to a room where you can do that in private, okay?[4]. But once again, the man who had commanded over three thousand air force personnel had no easy answer for him. . He suspects Williams would have weighed the judicial process that lay ahead when making his decision to confess. Smyth asked him if he was concerned about whether the Buccal (DNA) swab they had taken would match any samples taken from the four crime scenes. They alsoprovide training to field officers, conduct homicide courses, and assistinvestigators in the field. . OPP Det. Williams sat with his head bowed forward, his hands on his knees. Williams showed no interest and declined his offer. He then explained to the officer that he had killed her on Friday night before flying some troops to California early the next morning. 2023 National Post, a division of Postmedia Network Inc. All rights reserved. Closed Captioning and Described Video is available for many CBC shows offered on CBC Gem. So your wife now knows whats going on, Smyth said. Seelig said it's timely to look at issues of misogyny and violence against women. Beginning in May 2008, a rash of similar crimes occurred in the vicinity of Williamss home in Orleans. Jessica was a beautiful, gentle young woman. [He then stopped writing and scribbled out the lines he had written.]. Several hours pass by and Smyth makes it increasingly clear there is heavy suspicion surrounding Williams. I know you have already had a lot of pain in your life. He simply caved in to the tactics to which Staff Sergeant Smyth subjected him. "I got the impression that some of it was painkillers, but there were many different labels. Sources close to the investigation scoff at the idea that the cat was a possible trigger - and not merely because it sounds so absurd, but more so because it can't be squared with the chronology of Col. William's dark descent; Curio's death took place more than a year after Col. Williams began his string of lingerie thefts. I do hope that you find a way to succeed. The fact that he spoke so openly and candidly with his interrogator was indicative of two things: the colonels resolve at sticking to a decision once he had made it, and the great sense of relief he probably felt from having unbottled all of his horrific secrets. He shook his head. As Williams worked on the diagrams, Detective-Sergeant Smyth excused himself to print off some maps so that he could pinpoint the exact location of Jessicas body. Perhaps the most infamous interrogation in Canadian history was OPP Det. "They begin circling in and in and in it was a fascinating thing to watch," said CBC reporter Dave Seglins. [2] Modern police tactics are much more benign and non-adversarial. Williams pulled his chair closer to the desk and stared down at the photos that the detective had earlier laid out. Leaning forward into Mr. Armishaws space, speaking calmly in a tone the judge described as quietly relentless, Det.-Sgt. In July 2009, Colonel Russell Williams, 46, became commanding officer of 8 Wing CFB Trenton. He grabbed the prints to take a closer look. Despite being on the verge of a confession, the detective inexplicably veered off course, beginning yet another line of questioning. Police say they have no knowledge of Col. Williams seeking psychiatric treatment or reports of mental illness, though his associates over the years have certainly offered their own informal diagnosis. The Behavior Panel is a task force made up of four of the best body language and behavior profiler experts in the world.Scott Rouse: http://BodyLanguageTactics.com Mark Bowden: http://TruthAndLies.caChase Hughes: http://ChaseHughes.com Greg Hartley: http://BodyLanguageTactics.comthe behaviour panelbody language ghostDerek Van Schaik Believing BruceProfiler Task Forcecrime talk crimetalkforensic psychologyChapters:0:00 Introduction to The Behavior Panel0:40 Jim Smyth Master Interrogator1:34 How did Jim Smyth Become an Interrogator4:22 The Reid Interrogation Technique11:17 Resistance To Interrogation Training13:44 Colonel Russell Williams Interrogation35:20 Getting Your Kids To Tell The Truth#ColonelRusselWilliams #Interrogation #JimSmyth #bodylanguage When youre dealing with footwear impressions, we have a gentleman on the OPP whos basically world-renowned. Recognizing that the colonel was in a vulnerable state and close to breaking, Smyth continued to push. What do you need?, Well, do you want to supply things like fingerprints, blood samples. Crime OPP officers at centre of RCMP investigation suspended On Sunday, the OPP announced that OPP commissioner Vince Hawkes had ordered detective sergeant James Christie, provincial. Experienced Investigator with a demonstrated history of working in the law enforcement industry. But loved ones of the victims see the production of Smyth/Williamsat Theatre Passe Muraille differently. The colonel nodded and continued to chew his gum. And essentially with footwear impressions, youre in a situation where youre pretty much in the area of fingerprints.. Sgt. And its not issues that point away from you; its issues that point at you, okay? Smyth placed some photos onto the desktop. He broke into her house on Highway 37 near Belleville, Ontario, at about 1:00 a.m. on 29 January, and found Lloyd asleep. What do four of the world's top body language, behavior, and interrogation experts want to know from Ontario Provincial Police Detective Superintendent Jim Smyth? He is the detective who was tasked with confronting Williams about his crimes. along the north tree line. These are identical, okay? The detective asked if he remembered the model, but Williams said he didnt. It would then be only two days before hed be stopped and questioned by police at the fateful roadside canvass. It wouldn't be until July 17, 2009, that police got the break they needed to find Tori's remains. .. At some point he had gone back and scratched out The moment and written, Immediately before over top of it.]. No, absolutely not, he fired back, shaking his head in denial when the detective insisted that the order had gone out to all base personnel. The bizarre case shocked the military and the country and became an international media sensation. 2023 Ottawa Sun, a division of Postmedia Network Inc. All rights reserved. But now Detective-Sergeant Smyths sly charm and relentless pursuit of confessions have derailed a major prosecution, leading a judge to rule a suspected murderers admission of guilt was involuntary and possibly false, and therefore inadmissible. The PEACE model, for instance, is more open-ended with a softer approach while the Wicklander-Zulawski approach focuses on non-accusatory interviews. The moment she died she was quite happy, because she believed I was going to let her go. Smyth is biting, even to the point of doubting the honesty of his testimony under oath. On March 21, the jury watched avideotape of a May 2009 police interviewinwhich Ontario Provincial Police Det. You and your family are in our thoughts and prayers. Jim Munsterman, Alicia Lampert and Bill Holmes. Both women were asleep when Williams broke in. When they returned to their seats following the break, Williams was no longer chewing on the wad of gum. Smyth told the colonel that while he may have been called upon to speak with officers at the base regarding Comeaus murder, or may have spoken with other law enforcement officials about the crimes, he should not feel restricted by any previous comments that he had made to them. But according to several sources, the only two possible hints the former air base commander has ever let slip about why he went on his after-dark, misogynistic rampages - the passing of his cat and his chronic joint pain - will leave everyone wanting. which Massicotte accused of failing to warn Tweed residents about a predator in their town, and for suggesting that she had made a false, copycat claim when she reported her assault to police. An interrogation is when we decide to confront somebody on the fact that we believe that they may be responsible for something and challenge them on the information we have and maybe at that point decide to put evidence to them to show them what we know about the investigation and to encourage them to essentially tell us the truth if theyve been holding back.". Just tell me what you saw.". These steps lessen the chances of defense counsel later suggesting that their client had given a false confession. James Smith. there is a warrant being executed at your residence in Ottawa, okay? That's what you're going through right now," Smyth is seen telling McClintic. . Sgt. It was just a few steps from the building where Jessica had once worked, but a huge leap from the life that her killer had abandoned just hours earlier. got off on having that label, [Paul] Bernardo being one of them. "That hierarchy's gone now, that special status is gone. Colonel David Russell Williams was a decoratedair forcepilot and commander at theCanadian Forces Base(CFB) atTrenton,Ontario, when he was arrested in 2010, and charged with the murders of two women, and numerous other sexually related crimes. Please let me know whether there is anything I can do to help you during this very difficult time. On the afternoon of 7 February, Williams went to Ottawa Police headquarters at the request of OPP Detective Sergeant Jim Smyth, who said he had a few loose ends to tie up. Smyth then explained the reasons that police had focused their attention on him: the obvious geographical connections with three of the women and his military relationship with Comeau. You and I both know that the unknown offender male DNA on Marie-Frances body is going to be matched to you, quite possibly before the evenings over. [8] Smyths behavior could be due to the detectives efforts to keep talkinganother golden rule for interviewing suspects. Contact Stephanie: stephanie.matteis@cbc.ca and @CBCsteph on Twitter. 8-Wing TrentonThe official Air Force website for the Canadian Forces Base at Trenton, Ontario. I know youll take good care of sweet Rosie [their cat]. 50-year-old Detective Sergeant Patrick 'the Dog' Smith from Cavan was a thorn in the side of the Republican movement. There were also detailed accounts of his break-ins, and a meticulously compiled inventory of all the items he had stolen. . . ., Tire tracks are a major source of evidence for us.. On February 7, Williams was interrogated by OPP investigator Detective Superintendent Jim Smyth and confronted with the evidence of tire tracks and boot prints at Lloyd's home. Sgt. But for veteran crime writer and crusading editor J. Patrick OConnor, the factsor a lack of themdidnt add up. . He shifted in his seat, leaned his head forward, pursed his lips, and rubbed the back of his neck. . Smyth periodically left the interrogation room to get updates from the search teams, which provided him with more damning facts. He realized that there would be significant consequences for his actions, so his decision had to be a calculated and informed one. Previously, Ed was a Detective Constable at Government of Ontario Read More Ed Johnson's Phone Number and Email Last Update 3/6/2023 5:40 AM Email e***@opp.ca Engage via Email Contact Number (905) ***-**** Engage via Phone "The non-verbals are ringing loud and clear on this one. Jim Smyth joined York Regional Police in 1989. So that brings him down," said Mendelson. Theyd find a mother lode of explicit images on the devices, featuring all four of his victims, he assured Smyth. He was also registered as a sex offender. And that when they walk in and witness this play,I really want them to hold us in their hearts but more specifically, Jessica and the other women who were affected by Russell Williams.". Get email updates from your favourite authors. . A recurring theme in Det.-Sgt. However,Smyth and the OPP told CBC Toronto they are opposed to the production and Smyth fully supports the efforts of Lloyd's family and friends to stop it. I didnt know any of them, he said. When we find out whos responsible for one or all of those crimes, they could be charged. Williams raped her and made her pose for photographs. In 2006, Jim completed the Canadian Police College Polygraph Examiner's course resulting in his certification as a forensic polygraph examiner and forensic interviewer.Smyth's interrogation techniques have earned the attention of other police agencies, law school classrooms, and even the general public.Many people, such as journalist Michelle Lund, have commented that Smyth's soft-spoken interrogations (before he goes for the throat, trampling the criminal's arrogant certainty that Smyth can be fooled) are now literally textbook examples. "I could see a portion of a garbage bag underneath the rocks," Smyth testified, taking several long pauses as he appeared to compose himself. . Williams raped her and made her pose for photographs. Timothy Appleby, A New Kind of Monster (2011). Comeau was also a member of the Canadian Forces who worked on the same base as Williams. He stared blankly ahead with his arms folded defensively as the officers words fell upon deaf ears. Detective Sergeant Jim Van Allen, a criminal profiler with the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP), assessed the information on the Orleans break-ins and deduced that as the intruder continued to evade detection, he was becoming more aggressive. He had left home later that night, around 8 or 9 p.m., to sleep at the base before flying a crew to California the next morning. Williams vehemently denied being aware of such an order, and became defensive at the suggestion that it had been given by someone under his command. 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