I love it just a dynamite rifle. WC 300 HAMR case Then, why not just stick with the 30-30? I need to get behind one of the newest Marlin guns. Last edited: Nov 30, 2020. The last time I checked, I have AR uppers in seven different calibers. What photo appears inverted? The .300 Ham'r has noticeable velocity and energy advantages over factory .300 Blackout rounds at the muzzle. so, they came up with the 7.62X45. I am interested in this caliber, but want to see more real world feedback. The 1:15 rifling twist of the barrel easily handled a variety of bullets from 110 to 150 grains, including the (1) Sierra 110-grain HP, (2) Lehigh Defense 110 Controlled Chaos, (3) Sierra 125 ProHunter HP, (4) Nosler 125 AccuBond, (5) Speer 130 Hot-Cor FN, (6) Hornady 130 Spire Point, (7) Hornady 150 InterLock RN and the (8) Speer 150-grain Hot-Cor FN. CCI450 Hands-down this is the round that should have been developed in front of the blackout. Does this caliber require a different type of magazine? For most of them, the answer was no. The pig didnt take a another step. Start load: 25.0gr A1680 or 26.0gr H CFEBLK I've got everything on the way now to build an upper and start reloading. Its simple. His son Ryan suggested reusing HAMR, a perfect double entendre for a pig-hunting round. DY, if you are only limiting yourself to the 110gr round, there is little benefit to the 300 Hamr. Given how thick the brush was, and the fact that night was coming on, even if the pig only ran 30 yards, hed be hard to find and really hard to recover. Barrel Length: 18 (TR-300HBWRIG18RT15) The lighter weight of the AR-15 compared to the AR10 makes the rifle and the 300 HAMR the ideal choice for those desiring portability, versatility and performance. I shot several pigs during three days and one night, when we ventured forth with Bills night-vision binoculars and one of his suppressor-equipped 6.8 SPCs with a night-vision scope. This is not unusual in mild rifle cartridges, as pointed out in my article on .22 Hornet-based rounds in Handloader No. Veteran, army medic, proud Texas son. Its shooting great with awesome speed. I have some pro hunters 125g on the way. If I had to have an AR for hunting medium to large game it would be an AR-10 in .308W. The 300 HAM'R is capable of duplicating the proven ballistics of the legendary .30-30 Winchester from a comparable barrel length. It had a very cool name, it worked well in the AR-15, it fired a .30-caliber bullet, and it delivered decent supersonic performance. During the .300s development it became apparent very few powders would be appropriate for the case. I just found out about this caliber and am about to take the plunge getting geared up for it. You obviously have a lot of knowledge and experience I and others could find useful if you aimed it in the right direction. Wilsons rifles are accurate and well executed. If I want an iron sighted rifle for hunting medium to large game it will be a lever action in .30-30 (Win 1894) or .45-70 (Win 1886), but for general purpose use for medium to large game with a scope I would much prefer a bolt action .308 (Win M70), which I much prefer to an AR-10 which has inferior handling characteristics. Opening my pig up, a well as one another hunter had shot, I found the wound channels to be exactly what you would expect. Its accurate. Both will do an excellent job of doing what they were designed for. Zero issues. Maybe not so with the 300 Hamr. People prefer to hunt with them because they are accurate, reliable, and highly modular. Good looking round and numbers. 300 BLK was made for close quarter suppressed action against people without level VI body armor. I set the stack of paper 25 yards from the muzzle, where impact velocity would be high. Bill has also had great field results with the Speer 130- and 150-grain Hot-Cors. It cant replace Blackout as a subsonic, but its dang sure replaced for me otherwise. Reduce or add 12FPS per inch for shorter or longer barrels. 3. The Shooter's Log, is to provide informationnot opinionsto our customers and the shooting community. Assembled the upper yesterday, then function checked, chronoed, and accuracy tested it in a steady 36F rain on my old DPMS 3-gun lower today. Article mentioned east Texas as the location. 150gr Sierra RN PH #2135 WC 300 HAMR case Barrel & brass . So the 300 Hamr beats the 300BLKs supersonic performance, as well as the 7.6239 and even the 7.62x40WT. I never saw one cleaned or lubed in any way, and we stayed there on the property. Sighted-in 1.5 inches high at 100 yards, the bullet lands 1.5 inches below point of aim at 200, and 6 inches down at 250. It is a loser at everything, a winner at nothing. Do not attempt to imitate anything contained herein.The best way to keep up to date is to join m. But thats only true for some loads with some bullet weights, and even then, just practically. Indeed, those cartridges do come close to the .30-30 Win, and for that reason Ive felt completely comfortable taking the deer and pigs in my area with both of those cartridges. A lot of folks, like me, have used the ballistics of the .30-30 to justify hunting with the 300 Blackout or the 7.6239. Wilson Combat offers the .300 HAM'R chambering in six AR variations with barrel lengths ranging from 11.3 inches (Protector Pistol) to 20 inches (Tactical Hunter). hell even a damn SCAR is cheaper than this thing! Even the most recoil-sensitive shooters will shoot this gun well. 300 Ham'r has slightly higher SAAMI Max Average Pressure of 57,500 psi (transducer) vs 300 BO at 55,000 psi (transducer). Same weight bullets out of the same length barrelnot even close. 130gr Speer HP #2005 (inexpensive and super accurate) P.S. Redding also makes dies, and along with the Wilson ammunition, the Hunting Shack in Montana also makes HSM .300 HAMR loads with Sierra 135- and 150-grain bullets. Can a reamer for this purpose be purchased? With either Blackout or 300 HAMR, look at the rounds loaded into a magazine box and see that the larger diameter bullet in the shorter case sits down lower, nearer to the follower ridge. Some might think this is a good thing, and terminally, it is, but if you plan to eat your meat or feed it to your kids .300blk will do just fine inside 150 while preserving more meat and not leaving tunnels of sharp chunks most of the time. This is a great bullet in the .308 Winchester, with full-power loads duplicating 130-grain .270 Winchester muzzle velocities, trajectory and wind-drift out to 400 yards, yet it also works well with somewhat re-duced loads for recoil-sensitive hunters. Bigger bullets going faster certainly dont hurt, but if all emphasis is on bullet performance, then none is on shooter performance. From a subsonic standpoint, the .300 Blackout is the best offering available in the AR-15 platform. go back to 1952, the czechs did not like the 7.62X39, thought it wasnt enough. Do note, I prefer a low comb height, so those of you needing a high cheek piece might do better using something with a highercomb. Following as well. These have become the new go-to for me over the past couple of years. The .300 Blackout had several things going for it. . The 200+ ft. When it comes to a comparison between the 300 Blackout and the 300 Hamr, there really isnt one. In my eagerness to shoot the Lightweight Hunter, I took it to the range with four of the Wilson factory loads before reading the extensive background information Bill had e-mailed. With the .300 Blackout, which was designed to fire both super and subsonic ammunition, the twist rate is a compromise. Velocity range 2450 2500FPS, Speer 130gr FPHC #2007, 2.175 OAL However, Wilson Combat offers 17 loads for the HAMR and since the cartridge was recently approved by SAMMI (Sporting Arms and Ammunition Institute) South Ballistic Research (SBR) now offers two .300 HAMR loads. But note thats out of a 24 barrel, which is 4 longer than any of my lever action .30-30s. I also witnessed box after box fired through the same gun with multiple shooters. As was already mentioned earlier, it's pretty hard to best 300BLK in sub 10" barrels. Shopping with us is absolutely safe - you never have to worry about credit card safety when shopping here Share your latest AR build or photos from the range with #RangeDayFriday for a chance to win a new firearm! energy at the muzzle. (Wilson Combat recently introduced a new magazine that will work with the 5.56, the Blackout, and the HAMR.) Still, that load would generate almost 700ft/lbs of energy at that range. Shoots flatter than .45-70 or .44 m ag. Keep your gear handy when it's not on your belt. The Armor-Tuff finish is applied thoroughly and evenly over an anodized receiver set. The .300 HAMR is extremely accurate because the twist rate is optimized to work with a set bullet length and velocity. The .300 HAM'R will inevitably be compared to the .300 Blackout (BLK), but there is a huge difference between the two. I could also see why Bill had told me that, if I saw a pig, shoot it in the neck and then follow up with a shoulder shot. Billet Upper (Flat Top) and Billet Lower Receiver Not only is that considerably less drop at distance, but those 300 Hamr rounds are producing 337ft/lbs more energy at the muzzle than the 300BLK under exactly the same conditions. Price will determine which one gets more popular down the road for hunting use. Because it doesnt match the ballistics of the .30-30Win, which the .300Hamr was built to replicate. Im not a .44 Mag expert, but I would *assume* that .44 load is considered suitable for elk and at least black bear. It works as advertised, Way out of my price range. The 300 HAM'R was developed with one thing in mind, OPTIMAL TERMINAL PERFORMANCE. One of the distinctive features found on this model is fixed carbon fiber wrapped stock, the same kind used I used during my Nilgai hunt with his friggin awesome 458 Hamr. The HAMR on the other hand was designed to do what many imagined the .300 Blackout could doequal the ballistics of the .30-30 Winchester. Anyone who has been playing with handloading for 20+ years can see that the Hamr in 30 caliber has a huge advantage. That is, the AR. Well, if 300 HAMR gets any market share, which it probably wont. This one is made for close range punch against animals. Fortunately I bought all the important reloading components ahead of time. Despite being highly edible, over the past couple of decades pigs have become the biggest varmint in the country. Though it was often touted that its supersonic ammunition was the equal of the .30-30 Winchester, hunters soon found out that was not the case. My regular readers know I look for ways to keep guns out of the five star category, but considering the ballistic feat achieved here, this one probably deserves six. Not a long range round but Im getting too old for long range stuff anyways. This is the stripped-down, lightweight hunting rig that Bill keeps strapped to his Kawasaki Mule or in his vehicle when hes around the ranch for hog eradication. Caliber changes are as simple as the push and pull of 2 pins. Seems interesting for sure and Ive been bored with 300 BO for a while. He started working on the hog population at his ranch and in the process tried every AR-15 cartridge he could find, including the .300 Blackout. Introduced in 2018 by Wilson Combat, the .300 Ham'r might be the best general-purpose cartridge for the AR-15 platform. For hunting get a top of the line Kimber or Remington and save a ton of money as opposed to buying this toy. $3650. i guess ill just run down to the local gun store and grab some 30 apache ammo . It is greatly appreciated that Wilson Combat has published multiple recipes on their website, along with the sources for all parts needed to reproduce these loads at home. Even with an 18-inch fluted barrel, the balance point fell right between my hands. The 300 Ham'r is built in the traditional AR-15 footprint, and uses the AR-15 bolt carrier group and 5.55NATO/.223Rem bolt. 150gr Hornady SST #30303 (for the largest game the cartridge is suitable for) of energy. so why would you say it took 10 years to come up with this cartridge when its been around for 40 years here??? Short course: in its performance, 300 HAM'R is a significantly ramped-up .300 Blackout. 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But I read somewhere else a feller had luck with it. Thats next. If you want to fire a subsonic .30 caliber round from an AR-pattern rifle, the 300 Blackout is infinitely superior. The .300 HAM'R will do everything the .30-30 Winchester will do and more, but from an AR-15 platform; and in the Wilson Combat Tactical Hunter, it weighs less, shoots better and holds a lot more ammunition than any .30-30 lever-action rifle ever made. The Bill Wilson Ranch Rifle package that I hunted with weighs in at only 6lbs 2oz, empty. Shoulder angle is 30 degrees. so you get an AR-10. Each year it takes a larger and larger share of the hunting rifle market. The user has many finish options available, as well as barrel lengths and styles. Currently, ammo, brass and dies are available from Wilson Combat. A lightweight AR-15 delivering sub MOA accuracy gets 5 stars. I see no benefit over the .300 if sticking with 110s (and subs I suppose), but if you want to shoot 130s, the performance is definitely better. The 300 Blackout is designed to be subsonic. Per second is their. The .300 HAM'R rifles and barrels are available in 16.25-inch, 18-inch and 20-inch lengths with different profiles. It has since become my rifle for beyond 150 yards and 200 pounds exclusively for large pigs. Thats plenty for any Mule Deer, White Tail deer, or any pig, anywhere. of energy. Of course, bullet flight path and behavior are also all bumped up along with the extra power. And, its partly because the other .30- and .31-caliber (.300 Blackout and 7.62x39 mm) AR-15 compatible cartridges lack the ability to drive well-constructed, heavy bullets fast enough for enhanced wounding. That it took this long, and this many iterations, says good things about the old 30-30Win, and good things about Wilson Combat as well. In WA a 4+ barrel and not rimfire/.240+ diameter is legal for all big game. Following. Last fall proved the cartridges high performance on Tennessee whitetail deer. None of this was totally surprising, since one of the virtues of the .30-30s moderate muzzle velocities has always been consistent bullet performance on big game. Thought a Beretta shotgun was out of your budget? While the Hornady retained only 42 percent of its weight, it was the heaviest bullet so it still penetrated 7 inches. Seems to me that if you are an American you have a social duty to own an M4 Carbine type rifle for militia use We often hear about the average self-defense scenario, but the truth is every encounter is unique. 110gr Lehigh CC #05-308-110-CUSP (our partners at Lehigh Defense designed this bullet specifically for the 300 HAMR to provide extreme accuracy and deadly terminal performance) Remington, in association with Advanced Armament Association, tweaked a wildcat cartridge known as the .300 Whisper, changed the name to .300 Blackout, and the shooting world went crazy for it. and horses are larger than elk. The real question is not which is the best cartridge, but which is the best cartridge for you. Ammunition Available from the Wilson Combat Website, 110gr Sierra HP-V Soon, a 300 HAMR shooter might be forced to choose between poor performing spitzers that feed in his AR15 or flat nose bullets that kill game well but jam up the works. oh and being 45mm it would already fit into an AR-15 style rifle. Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. Now I need to find some places locally to pig hunt. since that is impossible a 30 caliber bullet doesnt fit in a 22 caliber hole Bullet seating was interesting as I had to use my Hornady 300 BLK seating die and "feel" when I contacted the case shoulder without crushing the case. That knife is made by Steve Woods and it is available on the Wilson Combat website. Variety is the spice of life, do what you want, but nothing defies the laws of physics. We shot the 300 HAM'R 125 GR. So, the only thing needed to convert 300 BO to the Hamr is the barrel, correct? Do regular AR pmags and usgi mags work with it? But the priceyikes. If you ever wanted to own Bill Wilson's the Bill Wilson of Wilson Combat, that is favorite hunting cartridge . I can only find one factory .30-30Win load that outperforms the 300 Hamr, and thats the Hornady 160gr FTX LeveRevolution round. Wilson himself says, The project originally started way back in 2005, when J.D. In 2018, Bill Wilson of Wilson Combat announced the .300 Hamr to match or better .30-30 Winchester performance in an AR magazine-length round. is .44 mag suitable for elk ? 24 with my numbers would probably exceeded the 300 all the way around. All 300 HAMR will do is screw up commonality of the 300 Blackout. I read somewhere Mr Wilson kind of foo-food on that bullet and its length. Looks awesome, can't wait to see how it shoots. This should not have been totally surprising, as Europes truly wild boars (Sus scrofa, the ancestor of domestic pigs) live as far north as southern Finland, Norway and Sweden. Maybe they can sell them to all the well to do liberals leaving California, tired of writing this!!! Velocity range 2500 2600FPS, Sierra 125gr SBT PH #2120, 2.245 OAL If a competent marksman can get a 120 lb. not a similar rifle that uses different ammo in the same magazines that can blow up your M4 if loaded into it. Three-shot groups averaged .96 inch at 100 yards, and it occurred to me that the rifle was the twenty-first-century equivalent of a Model 94 Winchester .30-30 carbine, both in ballistics and weight/handling. Smoke Composite Carbon Fiber Closed Shoulder Buttstock No, you dont. Then there is the 458 SOCOM 350 grainers at 1700 fps. This is idiotic. Hes developed an accurate cartridge for the AR15 that equals or exceeds the ballistics of one of the most proven cartridges ever used in North America. I all so hand load for it . It just WRECKS whatever it hits. JWT, those rounds sure look like .300 Black, how about a quick and dirty (never mind the thousandths) description why they are not. I know, Ive used them. 135gr Sierra HPBT MK #2123 The 300 Hamr wins handily. Wilson Combat recently introduced another tool for feral pig hunting, AR-15s chambered for its new .300 HAMR cartridge, essentially an elongated version of the .300 Blackout. The commercial soft point and SST rounds run about 15 to 20 cents per round less expensive than the 300 Hamr hunting rounds. I am using the 6.5 Grendel for this job (do the same thing with a AR that you can do with a 30-30). 300 Ham'r is nearly identical to 300 BO but with the shoulder/neck of the case moved forward. None do to me. It moves the bullet faster for any particular bullet weight, and with less powder. With a 16.25-inch barrel, the .300 Ham'r sends a Sierra 110-grain hollowpoint to 2,600 fps with 1,651 ft-lbs. Being an avid hunter, my primary interest was terminal performance, and the .300 Whisper just didnt get the job done for me. Short course: in its performance, 300 HAMR is a significantly ramped-up .300 Blackout. The five .300 HAMR models offered by Wilson come with barrels from 16 to 20 inches long, and all but one has a threaded muzzle. In fact, as far as the AR-15 is concerned, it might be the best big game hunting/tactical cartridge currently available. Still nothing is wrong with having lots of choices. Maybe we can convince the Russians to adopt it so it becomes cheap and plentiful. This round extends the range & lethality of the old 30-30 which has accounted for more game than likely any caliber. 30-30 is effective at short range hunting mostly because of the bullets it uses, which are medium weight for caliber bullets, of very light construction, and most importantly of blunt shape. Wilson Combat has always prided itself on accurate weapons, and I know from previous conversations that Bill is, in his words, uninterested in inaccurate guns. Already knowing the 300 Hamr is powerful, it was time to see what groups it could produce at distance, so we spent an afternoon on the 1,200 yard range. I feel some forget shot placement. JavaScript is disabled. granted that isnt a lot but you didnt stick with saying that the 300 and 30-30 matched. But elk are big. Talking to Matt over at Wilson Combat, this sounds really promising with near 308 gasser performance and a 400fps jump over the same bullet in 300blk. Just got a reply from Tressa over at Wilson Combat about donating brass for this 300 Ham'R testing/review. What do you think of 300 HAMR? No, the .44Magnum is not suitable for elk. I dont reload but those things matter to a lot of people. Seems to me that if you are an American you have a social duty to own an M4 Carbine type rifle for militia use in 5.56mm; not a similar rifle that uses different ammo in the same magazines that can blow up your M4 if loaded into it. 300 HAM'R RELOADING DATA EFFECTIVE SEPT 15, 2020 AND SUPERCEDES ALL PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED DATA NOTE: All velocities from a 16.25" barrel using a conventional chronograph at 75 degrees F and rounded to the nearest 25fps.Approximately 20fps higher velocity is normally recorded when using a LabRadar and 12fps per inch for other barrel lengths. Unfortunately, I still cant get much past 50 yards around here due to the remnants of biblical-level flooding this past season, but my groups from that distance with this HAMR were about the size of one shot from a .45. There will no doubt be a fair degree of internet angst over this new .30-caliber AR-15 cartridge with the predictable refrains of "it's just marketing" and "it doesn't do anything my .300 BLK doesn't do." WC 300 HAMR case Based on the evidence I saw, as well as Wilsons published load data, which is out there for anyone to reproduce, I compared that to the loading data in my manuals from Speer, Hornady, Nosler, and Barnes, as well as commercial loading advertised by them online.
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