To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. It's a trail tyre, through and through, sitting somewhere between the Crossmark and legendary Minion in terms of rolling speed/grip stakes. Something to sit between the Aspen/Ikon/Ardent and the Assegai/Minion/Dissector. It can find its spot on many bikes front or rear for whatever traction your bike needs. Marked as a 2.35, they dwarf just about all other non-downhill specific tyres out there. They sure looked the part for a do all tire in the Pacific North Wet (yes wet) with their well-spaced ramped center tread and transition nobs. The Ikon excels in dry conditions with its 3C compound options and the small siping on each knob across the tire. Wow, 945g is pretty porky for an aggressive XC tire, thats dissector territory. When its really dry and dusty I swap it for a slaughter. USD The Ride Concepts Womens Vice shoes are my current favourite flat pedal shoe, so I wanted to give the Mid version, with raised ankle, a go. You may recall that British Cycling recently issued its own guidance, having decided that it couldnt wait any longer Maxxis Minion DHR II review: the one tyre for EVERYTHING, Schwalbe release 5 new Super casings plus updated Nobby Nic and Big Betty, Making Up The Numbers Podcast: Aaron Gwin, Fresh Goods Friday 650: Fashionable Goods Friday, UK Government Issues Concussion Guidance For All Grassroots Sports, This topic has 9 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated. I wouldn't run it on the front no matter what. When that tire loses cornering traction, it loses it right away and does not hook back up easily. Durability is one of the areas that the Ardent really shines. The center portion of the tread is also noticeably wider, and there isnt as much of a height difference between in center, intermediate, and outer tread. In front, this tire gives you a lot of float and very little rolling resistance for a faster kind of ride. While XC tires might not get much love from us, we do ride most of them and also sell lots of them. On my XC hardtail I've used Ardent Race (The race is a totally different tire)and Icon and Forkaster 2.6 front 2.35 rear. Forekaster being light filled a nice gap. The Aspen recently got a bit of a revamp with a wider casing option, 29 x 2.25. Youll also see the casing width increase with the 2.35 moving to 2.4, while the 2.6 option remains. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. Tire , Currency: Or downcountry as its often called. And, to be frank, all I have is photographs to go off. About Us | I ride 2.6 front & 2.35 rear while he rides 2.2s. I would never run it as a front tire and the brief period that I have, it was filled with constant washouts. The Ardent filled out to a nice profile on my 26mm rims. I guess it maybe depends on your type of wet weather. That should work well for the conditions you describe, 2022 Trek Top Fuel 9.8XT. Yeah, no 3c was a dealbreaker for me, esp for a damp conditions tyre. The 2 by 2 tread is also relatively squared off, which works to increase traction between your tire and the terrain. Generally, you wont have to do a lot of prep work on your rims to make sure theyre Ardent safe. The sheer size of these tyres comes as bit of a shock. Durable compounds. The tires can be installed with no tools and a simple floor pump. I agree with Minimus, the Ardent is not a great tire. That said, the tread is only moderately aggressive, and it looks like less of an all-terrain all-condition tire than many of its competitors. The EXO construction is well worth the slight weight penalty and is easily offset by not having to carry tubes. Aside from the fact that I spend most of my time with them removing them from test bikes after one terrifying ride. I'm not sure it's 'that' much slower than the Minion SS. Its a great tire that works in many types of trail conditions. But while the Ardent is dual-compound rubber in the center tread, the Forekaster is dual compound throughout. Wheels and tires are what make the most difference when it comes to weight and on a small travel bike, the best weight to traction ratio win the spots on my bikes. I personally really like to ride this tire out back, be it a 2.2 or 2.35. If the girl said no then the answer obviously is no, but she's not gonna say no. Both of these tires have a carbon fiber bead and can be ordered with EXO protection for more durable sidewalls. MrRideAlong - Assuming you were suggesting I upgrade the Rekon to a wider version of what I have, I hesitate to think a .15 inch difference in width would make that big of a difference. These look good, although hard to know where it sits vs the Dissector. The extra width and volume over the old 2.25 Ardent really made this tire shine on the trail. All round grip is superb; from hardpack to rubble to mud, the Hans Dampf is versatile like few other treads weve ever used. Yeah, dissector, ardent, ardent race, high roller, are already in between minion and Aspen. While true cross country racers will be looking for the best weight and rolling speed they can get, our tire choices tend to also have a heavy emphasis on traction. I have the 2.4 Ardent on the front of my Yeti SB5 and Intense Primer. Its a trail tyre, through and through, sitting somewhere between the Crossmark and legendary Minion in terms of rolling speed/grip stakes. @honourablegeorge I reckon it would be Dissector up front, no? Forekaster - MAXXIS International Forekaster XC (Cross Country) Trail The original Forekaster was designed as a wet weather option for XC, while the new version is aimed squarely at modern short travel (100mm-130mm) trail bikes - aka the "downcountry" segment. For the rear, I opted for something a little lighter that I thought might be more likely to give it up in fast tight turns. Its a good combination tire, but most users do note that there are other newer tires in the Maxxis line and others that outperform the Ardent as both a specialist tire and an all-purpose design. Review | Dynaplug tubeless repair tools continue to set the gold standard, Continental Tyre Review | Argotal, Kryptotal & Xynotal Tyres, Trek Fuel EX 2023 Review | A bigger, musclier & hugely adaptable trail bike, Specialized Stumpjumper Mullet Review | The Stumpy gets a bigger fork & mixed wheels, This website requires Javascript for optimum viewing purposes. Ill be after these as soon as theyre available. Don't get me wrong, I love going hard on my Minion DHF/DHR combo. Zach Overholt is the Editor in Chief of Bikerumor. I was initially running a 2.35 Ikon on the back and while it has a surprising amount of grip, in the fall with the leaves on the ground, I found it lacking in traction when crawling up steep climbs and in the corners. With amazing braking traction and generous siping, the grip and control from a Maxxis DHRII are off the charts compared to any other Maxxis XC tire. Customer Review The 2.25 size is truly an XC tire with the low profile tread, while the 2.4 size lends itself to be more of a trail tire or a fast-rolling rear tire. I know the 2.25 on my 29er and the 2.4 WT on my 27.5 measured out the same, and the 27.5 was on a rim that was 7mm wider internally. Thats not a huge surprise since Maxxis is well known for producing high quality and durable tire sets. Were told that the 29 x 2.4 Dual compound will be available very soon, with prices ranging from $83 to $101. I've run the Ardent/Forekaster combo and it was better than a Forekaster on both. The Ardent is also decently fast-rolling considering the tread height and does decently well with clearing mud as well. If youre looking to ride loose and fast, but dont mind checking on trail conditions and taking care in sandy and muddy areas, the Ardent is a solid option. My quoted 2.4in test tire looked great when inflated to 24psi on my 30mm . I thought I started sucking at cornering all of the sudden a few years ago. really it was the 2.4 ardent in the front making me eat dirt. Weaknesses: A bit vague in intermediate corners. Never hated it but it simply has been surpassed by other tires (XR4 in that camp as well as mentioned above). When should you choose the new Forekaster? It doesnt have the aggressive squared-off profile some cornering tires prefer, but its more rounded shape also doesnt have any dead zones or major loss of reactivity and grip. Strengths: Resilient sidewall. Impetus - Interesting you would say that about liking the Rekon more for a rear. Ragley Big Wig, Surly Cross Check (gravel bike), Sunday Soundwave (BMX), 91 Schwinn High Plain (about town bike), Nashbar CXSS (on trainer). Its no longer a XC tyre for damp conditions. Theyre very tough too, particularly in the Snake Skin sidewall option. That being said, the Ardent tests well as both a front-mounted tire and a rear-mounted tire. The Ardent has been part of the Maxxis lineup for years. Tires are the last place I'd cheap out on, considering they're the only contact you have with the ground. No longer marketed as only a wet weather option for the XC world, Maxxis all-new tire takes aim at the quickly growing world of aggressive XC & Trail. However, the narrow casing and lack of tubeless options were lackluster at best. It measures 2.35 at the nobs and 2.3 at the casing on a 26mm internal width rim. The Maxxis Ardent EXO is an excellent choice for the rider looking for a fast-rolling, efficient, and lightweight tire for XC style riding. Put in back and its durability and ability to take a hit really shine. It also makes a great rear tire when looking for speed in the back and some more tread up front like what you would get with the Ardent, Ardent Race or Forekaster. This property in a tyre can often result from a softer, faster wearing compound not so with the XR4s. 3C is a good addition but I really dont want a tyre just shy of 1kg for my riding. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Thanks Ziphead, I just discovered that there is a Maxxis Ardent Race 2.35 tire. Got a bargain Forekaster/Reckon (front/rear) 2nd hand from a lad who took them unused off his oEM Orbea- delighted to have them and only 40 quid or so. Ready to go tubeless, installation is a breeze, and many cyclists report that the high durability of the Ardent makes is a great rear-tire design. The Maxxis Ardent is something of a do-it-all trail tire thats had relatively high success rates and popularity with mountain cyclists for a while now. Closely aligned ramped centre blocks improve braking while ensuring. If it wasn't wider than the Forekaster, I'd run it out back. Cannot be used in conjunction with other offers, or when switching memberships). The Forekaster sports shorter medium sized nobs in an open pattern. Coil fan. Front and rear for fastest rolling and max speed. Maxxis offers probably the widest range of tire options for any given discipline and XC/Trail is no different. The two tires have a similar width, with only .05 inch different (the Forekaster is the narrower of the two). It measures 2.35 at the nobs and 2.3 at the casing on a 26mm internal width rim. Employee Review We ran it as a dedicated front. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Ardent definitely has more cornering grip specially in loose terrain. Support us! Having mid-height almost square knobs across the tire that is spaced out quite a bit, it's as close to an XC spike you can get. The very photos here. Prior to that, Zach spent many years in the back of a bicycle shop building and repairing nearly every type of bike, while figuring out how to (occasionally) ride them. I never think about the Forekaster which means it works. Otherwised they ticked all the boxes. 111 [Podcast], Best of the Month! The tread on the Ardent resists degrading. Great for XC trails and with a new tread and tire profile every few seasons, theyve cornered the market on creating a durable line of high-performance for price mountain bike tires. Anthony Smith Maxxis classifies the Forekaster as an 'aggressive XC' tire, which seems about right: it rolls fast, and accelerates incredibly well at 735 grams for the 120tpi, EXO-casing version. The Ardent is decent as a rear tire, but to echo what many others have already posted, I would definitely not run them as a front tire. Honestly, I'd get rid of the Ardent. However, the 2.6 version has been designed specifically for rims 30-35mm wide internally. That doesnt make the Ardent a worse tire, it just means that if you tend to ride loose terrain, are a particularly aggressive rider, or like coming into a corner just a little too hot, you may want to consider a tire that specializes in your riding style and conditions. Billed as a Jack of all trades tread, wed have to agree that this is some of the best all rounder rubber available and weve used these tyres on multiple bikes now. Maxxis Forekaster Features. While Ardent tires are very durable and rolling resistance and reactivity dont generally change much with wear, they do tend to become more prone to slips and drifting as they age. I personally really like to ride this tire out back, be it a 2.2 or 2.35. The Maxxis Ardent is a light duty trail tire that rolls fast in dry conditions. The Ardent offers great traction in the beginning, but the weaknesses of the less aggressive tread design start to show within a few months of regular riding. If at all possible I avoid riding when it is wet and most of the trails where I ride are loose over hard with lots of roots and the occasional rock garden. If that doesnt work out the plan is to move it to the rear and put a Forekaster on the front. I will start with the faster rolling, smaller tread tires and continue into the heavier, knobbier tires that tend to have more traction. Once inflated, it is easy to see the rounder profile compared to the Ardent Race it replaced, and holding them side-by-side the extra spacing . If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. Thanks Matt. Details and Specifications: Use: Aggressive XC,. Because of this, I'll take the Maxxis pair any day of the week over Schwalbe tires. These aren't full-on XC race tires. 4.23) [Video], CushCore Trail Insert - The Perfect Middle Ground For Tubeless Inserts, Wolf Tooth ReMote Pro - The New & Refined Dropper Remote. The center tread looks like a slimmed-down version of the High Roller II and the side knobs mimic the Minion, creating a lot of control you wouldn't expect from an XC tire. XC Tires Maxxis Forekaster 2.35" (Front) & Rekon Race 2.35" (Rear) EXO +Lightweight +Fast rolling-Less traction-Less durable . The wear on the Maxxis has been very even and consistent for me. Manage Settings Learn how your comment data is processed. Thick outside knobs really hold up to hard cornering and the rolling resistance is pretty good for a more aggressive tire. Just installed an Ardent Race 2.35 on the front. I've heard nothing about a 27.5in option, but Maxxis states a plumper 2.6in version will be available in the near future. . Both are also tubeless-ready, or TR, so you have the additional option depending on how youd prefer to ride. Along with a spike-like design, most of the knobs or spikes also have generous siping, making sure those tall knobs conform to anything they can grab onto when the dirt gets slippery. The number of options is a bit crazy to list as well, from different compounds, casing options, and widths, as well as the option to go non-tubeless. The Rekon is made to be a bit more aggressive than the Ikon but with some additional tire tech. Vittoria Syerra downcountry tyre is also 292.4 and weighs 850g a tyre. As an all-weather, all-rounder, we rate the Ardents very highly. Needless to say, I was more than interested in putting the Rekon of the same 2.6 width to the test. Calling it a "Goldilocks" tire, Maxxis envisions the new Forekaster as the ideal step between their current XC options and more aggressive trail and enduro tires. The new version of the Maxxis Forekaster has ditched any of its previous damp duties. Much stiffer sidewalls then the Ardent and it performs well around 18/20 psi. Bikerumor Copyright 2013 2023. Maxxis might have some of the most iconic XC/Trail tires like the Ikon and Ardent. Between the center knobs and the side knobs, there are small, square intermediate knobs with alternating slanted siping. What more could you want? While the Maxxis DHRII might be considered to be an all-mountain/enduro/downhill tire, it provides a great grip to weight ratio when it's in the 2.3 widths and EXO protection. This is not a tire that you need to worry about blowing the side walls before youve squeezed the last life out of the tread, which is saying something when the tread is as long-lasting as the Ardent. Shame theyre quoting them as so heavy, the 292.4 is claimed at 945g, which puts it same weight as a Dissector and 2.3 DHR II. Although I am a Lancastrian, I freely admit that West Yorkshire is my favourite place to ride. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. Minion DHR II Maxxis Dissector. He has been writing about whats new in the bicycle world for 12+ years. We should all have to include where we ride, what type of bike/rims we have and what air pressure we run. Contis Black Chili compound seems to improve with use. Please, It appears you're using an old version of Internet Explorer which is. Company The Rekon comes in a few width options as well as two casing options, all with Maxxis 3C rubber to make sure you are getting the most traction from the rubber itself as possible. I think it's the fastest rolling tire and has recently been adopted by most of the XC World Cup Maxxis riders. Was hoping it would be closer to 850g but still very keen to give them a go! Like crack cocaine, the Schwalbe Hans Dampf tyres are expensive and addictive. More: The Best Bike Seats for Overweight Cyclists. I currently use a Forekaster in the front in those wet Autumn and Winter months, and I gotta say, Ive not been impressed with it. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. (New annually renewing membership only. When an Aspen isnt enough tire but a Minion is too much, choose the new Maxxis Forekaster.. The Ardent has been part of the Maxxis lineup for years. Fast rolling, slidey in the corners, slippy on the rocks. :/. This pretty much looks like a love child of the old Forekaster and the Assegai. The tire has "mid-height tread blocks spaced evenly and openly to . Loving this combo at the moment. Looks like Ill be looking towards their more XC-orientated models next time, which is a shame as I like the larger side knobles than is typical for a light tyre. In this review, our customer Jordan goes with the Ardent in front and Forekaster in the rear. The Maxxis Forekaster used to sit squarely in the aggressive cross-country category, a tire with enough tread for slipperier conditions, but with a fairly low weight. The launch represents the, Canyon updated the Spectral:ON eMTB in 2022, redesigning the entire bike around their in-house developed batteries. While it may no longer be marketed as a wet conditions specific tire, the new Forekaster is still designed to shed mud well, with raised edges on the casing. I rode Ikons front and back on my 29er XC hardtail in 2.0 width for a while, but after a bit I started noticing the front was washing out more than I'd like. Guess Ill start stockpiling the outgoing model. The tread has been beefed up a little, and Maxxis now says it's designed for modern short travel trail bikes. Run the same tire front and rear, run the same tread but large volume up front, or what most of us at Worldwide do: run a more aggressive front tire with a faster rolling rear tire so you can let it slide out back while being in control up front. I really dig tires with these intermediate transition knobs, and all of these small features is why the Rekon has become my favorite XC/Trail tire. When it comes to Maxxis' treads, people tend to gravitate to the established gravity-meats (i.e., the Minion or High Roller series) or the pinner XC treads, such as the Ikon. I'd say try both and see which one you like for where and how you ride. Strengths: Huge volume at a reasonable weight. Hopefully, youre not more confused now than before you read this comparison. The old Forekaster was basically Maxxis version of the Nobby Nic, but then Schwalbe updated the Nic tread with more aggressive and closely spaced cornering knobs and which improved that tyre immensely. Not super light but it's worth it for the EXO protection and not feeling the need to carry a tube. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. The Ardent Race is the faster, smaller knobbed brother of the classic Ardent tire. I know that Maxx Terra tire wore phenomenally well though compared to the Maxx Speed after almost 400 miles the knobs are still sharp and pronounced and look brand new. Rarely a week goes by without me riding and exploring the South Pennines. Maxxis calls it a trail tire on there official website. Forekaster The Ardent is also somewhere in the middle of wider profile tires. The Ardent Race sees the same tread pattern as its Trail- and Enduro-oriented siblings, but has had a few millimeters snipped off the tread height all around. Like mine, Ardent 2.4 front, prefer Ardent Race 2.2 to normal Ardent at the rear, both tubeless on the original flow rims. While the Maxxis DHRII comes in a vast array of widths, casings and rubber options, the only ones to look at here are the 2.3 and 2.4 widths with EXO protection. The reason for asking is because some people have commented in other threads that the 2.4 width seems to perform better (I'm guessing because you can run the pressure slightly lower). The 29er version with the durable DoubleDown casing we tested weighed 1,090 grams. Lately though, it seems to have really exploded. The outgoing model was already a great downcountry tire. I had a funny feeling that mentioning Ardents would draw some very good responses. Come join the discussion about bike parts, components, deals, performance, modifications, classifieds, trails, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! CAD The Print+ membership where Singletrack magazine drops through your door, plus full digital access, is normally 45, now only 22.50 with the code. In fact, these two tires are often paired together as they offer a relatively balanced combined performance. While I wouldn't consider myself a weight weenie, I do look at the weight on tires and wheels. Feast your eyes on these four tyres treads that roll fast but fill you with confidence in corners and when it gets rough. There are intermediate knobs but spaced out quite a bit more than the other tread, leaving a gap where there isn't an intermediate knob. Its not as wide as some trail tires, but also offers significantly less roll resistance than wider, grippier, tread designs. Great under brakes. I have written countless magazine and website features and route guides for the UK mountain bike press, most notably for the esteemed and highly regarded Singletrackworld. In a 2.25 size, the Ardent has a good, tall bag to it, offering plenty of cushion and encouraging lower pressures. The tread isnt aggressive enough for thick loose soil or sandy conditions, and quickly loses traction in those conditions. EUR Allow Necessary Cookies & Continue With seven core tires that we looked at and with all of the tires coming with different widths, casings and rubber options, the possibilities really are endless. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The harder-wearing PaceStar compound is recommended for the rear or youll be shelling out for new rubber very quickly. As an all-weather, all-rounder, we rate the Ardents very highly. In a nut shell, this tyre works best if youre fully committed to a corner and tip it in! The Mids only come After a short break theyre back and in this episode George, Jack and Emilie are joined by the five time World Cup Champion, Intense Factory Racings Aaron Gwin, to chat FGF is often a series of photos of bad modelling, so it seems in keeping to share some wedding dress shopping nonsense. You can choose how much grip you want, how fast the tire rolls, and what wheel you want to put it on with Maxxis. And something that doesnt have that Ardent-y gappy V-shape to the tread pattern (that I personally have never got along with).if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[728,90],'singletrackworld_com-leader-1','ezslot_6',666,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-singletrackworld_com-leader-1-0'); We dont have much in the way of info let only test samples so well have to make do with the press release and pics, THE ALL-NEW FOREKASTER COMING 2022 FOREKASTER.
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